tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post8888194483762383056..comments2023-09-09T08:53:09.616-07:00Comments on the rev: How does Christ centered actually workjohn jensenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01152784582419753697noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-34885345343612578042011-08-24T14:06:38.733-07:002011-08-24T14:06:38.733-07:00Thanks. I'll play the smiling part by ear; I ...Thanks. I'll play the smiling part by ear; I wasn't sure if I should make too much eye contact at the beginning since she told me very plainly to leave her alone.<br /><br />On the other hand, a man who saw the whole thing reported that he had tried to help her twice (not sure what was involved in the "help") and she cussed him out. I was friendly to her and smiled, and I think she was as friendly to me as she was able to be in the moment; she definitely didn't yell or cuss. So again, I take that as a hopeful sign.<br /><br />Sorry to take up so much space with this. Sounds silly, but I really, really felt like we both had a spiritual connection. Like God puts people in our paths for a reason, and we are in each other's path for a reason right now.Final Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-88773713038079917102011-08-24T13:16:54.013-07:002011-08-24T13:16:54.013-07:00those are good ideas.
One thing I would ask you t...those are good ideas.<br /><br />One thing I would ask you to consider however is to look her in the eyes and smile. Many homeless people report that people refuse to look at them, or stare and then turn away when caught.<br /><br />I commend you on your heart, and your willingness. You are starting where you should, and just trust the Spirit as to where you go from there.<br /><br />johnjohn jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152784582419753697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-63336389531900824352011-08-24T13:00:51.193-07:002011-08-24T13:00:51.193-07:00I should add that she walks on a piece of land bet...I should add that she walks on a piece of land between a service road and a highway. It's extremely loud; I could barely hear her when I was ten feet away. So my options are limited.Final Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-57232810876185979202011-08-24T12:57:55.766-07:002011-08-24T12:57:55.766-07:00Can you break that down into practical steps?
Her...Can you break that down into practical steps?<br /><br />Here are my thoughts: She has been placed or has wandered into my life's path. I can't change her, make her conform to my standards of "normal" or good living (ie, get off the street, into some shelter, look for a job, relate to people civilly, etc.), but that's okay because Jesus never asked us to get results, he just told us to get out there and do.<br /><br />Since she won't talk to me, I have to guess at her needs, and right now the most immediate would be food and water. Water is easiest, because it is bottled and she won't assume I'm poisoning her.<br /><br />My plan is to drop it off several feet in front of her when I see her and drive away. Not even look back. Check later to see if she's taken it. Maybe leave some gloves when it gets cold. Not even try, for a long while, to make real contact or even eye contact.<br /><br />In your experience, does that sound reasonable, or are there other things you've found that work? I'm really only looking for Step One and maybe Step Two here.<br /><br />Thanks!Final Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-73046448310671778642011-08-24T11:25:44.623-07:002011-08-24T11:25:44.623-07:00Yes I do believe that our approach is the same tow...Yes I do believe that our approach is the same towards those that have mental illness. It has seemed that through the years this is an area that we have been blessed to be a part of.<br /><br />A few things that I want to affirm in your account is that you asked her if you could help, and you didn't force things upon her. That was very good. Remember Jesus asked, "what would you like for me to do for you?"<br /><br />What we have realized through trial and error is that particularly with the mentally ill, you have to have a long term mentality. Many of these wonderful people have been abused their entire life, and they have trust issues. In addition, many have mental illness that is itself a trust issue. And, often we see two steps forward and seven steps backwards with our friends.<br /><br />We have realized that we must love them, even if we cant help them. And that many times, what they need more than anything for health, is just a normative community, that loves them from a place of equality.<br /><br />revjohn jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152784582419753697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-23786953972382766202011-08-24T10:30:56.706-07:002011-08-24T10:30:56.706-07:00John, I have a semi-related question; do you deal ...John, I have a semi-related question; do you deal with the mentally ill homeless, and if so, do you have any pointers?<br /><br />We live in a suburban community that has recently acquired a visible homeless population. One of these women regularly roams on a street I travel nearly every day. Yesterday it was 100 degrees and she was dressed in layers and a ski cap, so I took her some water -- obviously I'd love to do more, but I had a feeling my overtures would be rebuffed anyway, so I decided to start small.<br /><br />I was right; she told me she didn't need anything and to go away. I asked if I could leave the water on the road and she said no. So I crossed the street back to my car and left the bottles on that side of the road, without looking back. Today one was gone, so I'm taking that as a hopeful sign, but a unsure how to proceed from here. <br /><br />I do not want to offend her dignity nor frighten her. The community knows she's there and apparently she's where she thinks she wants to be; there are clear signs of mental illness. Should I just continue to put things in the spot where I left the bottles? Do I find a way to approach her and gain her trust? Any thoughts?Final Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com