tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post111698287153087503..comments2023-09-09T08:53:09.616-07:00Comments on the rev: another fightjohn jensenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01152784582419753697noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1118374283879800132005-06-09T20:31:00.000-07:002005-06-09T20:31:00.000-07:00"9-02pm punk rocker 86" wrote something about shou..."9-02pm punk rocker 86" wrote something about should followers of Jesus swear.<BR/>Of course they can!! And do. Unless they are religious suppressive hypocrites who can't even imagine thet God fully knows what the underside of their bottom looks like when they go to the toilet.<BR/>Let's be human. There are times for everything under heaven. Sometimes a stream of swearwords expressed in exasperation towards God helps in the search for Christ in us and spiritual cleaning and development.<BR/>http://boltono.typepad.com I've written more about this at my blog, but the main article I hope all read is "Basic how to live" which is not in "recent posts".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117415519749911192005-05-29T18:11:00.000-07:002005-05-29T18:11:00.000-07:00I'd say, don't do anything that's against your con...I'd say, don't do anything that's against your conscience, because it'll weaken your conscience. And don't do anything that would amke other people go against their conscience.<BR/><BR/>With regards to swearing, there weren't any offensive words in Hebrew or Aramaic because they didn't regard the body as being evil and the spirit as pure.Christophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13955547103419492359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117178478500850762005-05-27T00:21:00.000-07:002005-05-27T00:21:00.000-07:00that is truly tragic. I will pray for him and the...that is truly tragic. I will pray for him and the rest of his family. I will also pray for you to be Jesus to the family in the midst of this tragedy.<BR/><BR/>Funny how the little stuff goes away in the midst of the important things in life.<BR/><BR/>the revjohn jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152784582419753697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117151015157846302005-05-26T16:43:00.000-07:002005-05-26T16:43:00.000-07:00No, in fact as my little brother pointed out there...No, in fact as my little brother pointed out there isn't much written about certain words being bad. If you study the scriptures that say things like, "let no unwholesome thing come from your mouth" they seem to be in the original greek applying mainly to sexual kinds of talking, innuendo and so forth. <BR/><BR/>It is funny that most Christians get all bent out of shape about "cuss words" yet they don't seem to have a problem with gossip which is talked about way more explicitly in scripture.<BR/><BR/>Another issue is culture, if you use the word sucks you will offend my mother. Aww that sucks, is to her a very offensive thing to say, as is scum bag, which to her would mean a used and discarded rubber. However in her lifetime these two words have changed in meaning and now are "acceptable" words. And again as I pointed out, you can say very dirty nasty things without using "cuss words".<BR/><BR/>As for non Christians getting mixed messages, I think the typical Christian gives them mixed messages. God loves you, but you have to change and be just like other people. Or even worse, it is okay to drive around in a sixty thousand dollar SUV while people are starving all over the world, but don't say shit, cause that is bad. My non Christian friends understand that being a Christian means following Jesus, not following a bunch of silly rules that only make sense to church people. They see the way I love my family, and my God, and them, and take comfort in the fact that even though I live in pursuit of a higher ideal, I still talk to them on their own level and don't appear holier than thou.<BR/><BR/>the revjohn jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152784582419753697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117145043197008382005-05-26T15:04:00.000-07:002005-05-26T15:04:00.000-07:00"You shalt not swear falsely by the name of the Lo..."You shalt not swear falsely by the name of the Lord..." - This commandment is to never take the name of God in a vain oath. In Exodus, the text reads "in a vain oath" while in Deuteronomy it reads "in a false oath.<BR/><BR/>I think this is the one you mean, and you'll see it does not refer to what some people regard as swear words.KLJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07518406972256513476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117144817392872712005-05-26T15:00:00.000-07:002005-05-26T15:00:00.000-07:00Regarding the swearing, as far as I know the Bible...Regarding the swearing, as far as I know the Bible says nothing about some words being good and others being bad. Combining words in ways that disrespect your parents, or take the lord's name in vain, yes, but curse words, nope. Not that I've ever seen. <BR/>Who decides a word is a curse word anyway. There's not difference between shit, crap and poop. They all smell the same. The whole idea of certain words being naughty is ridiculous. Diry Sanchez is way dirty, and that one I can say on TV! <BR/>George Carlin was on a show where they let him say shit in reference to marijuana but not in reference to poop. So it was the opposite of the real world. He COULD smoke some shit, but he could NOT take a shit.KLJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07518406972256513476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117114833219094852005-05-26T06:40:00.000-07:002005-05-26T06:40:00.000-07:00Never really got the threat of Hell, but then agai...Never really got the threat of Hell, but then again, I'm not a Christian of anykind. Since its pretty easy to get into Heaven, I never really saw the big deal about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117107566047820552005-05-26T04:39:00.000-07:002005-05-26T04:39:00.000-07:00I've just been writing an essay on hell and spent ...I've just been writing an essay on hell and spent a lot of time focussing on what Jesus actually said in which context. It is very interesting to note that Jesus didn't preach about hell to the masses. He spoke about it with the religious elite of the day, but never to the masses. Jesus certainly never threatened normal people with hell. Interesting ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117084303852992302005-05-25T22:11:00.000-07:002005-05-25T22:11:00.000-07:00Punk Rocker 86 said... yeah its me again, writi...Punk Rocker 86 said...<BR/><BR/> yeah its me again, writing two things in a row but i was reading through some of your other blogs and you swore, do you think its right saying your a christian and swearing on the same page?<BR/><BR/>I never swear, I sometimes use words that some other people put on the naughty list. And yes I think that is okay. If this is a major problem for you I can make an indepth article on why I believe that using "cuss words" is not contrary to scripture.<BR/><BR/>But at the end of the day, does it really matter whether you say shit or poo poo? I don't think Jesus is too worried about it.<BR/><BR/>the revjohn jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152784582419753697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117081793934031672005-05-25T21:29:00.000-07:002005-05-25T21:29:00.000-07:00Well Put,ThanksEddyWell Put,<BR/>Thanks<BR/>EddyEddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05333884170241040909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117079035804334052005-05-25T20:43:00.000-07:002005-05-25T20:43:00.000-07:00this seems like a primary message of yours, could ...this seems like a primary message of yours, could you explain why?<BR/><BR/>the revjohn jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01152784582419753697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117078025454622152005-05-25T20:27:00.000-07:002005-05-25T20:27:00.000-07:00Don't forget that we are the church, though.Don't forget that <I>we</I> are the church, though.Christophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13955547103419492359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9706995.post-1117075781583855192005-05-25T19:49:00.000-07:002005-05-25T19:49:00.000-07:00Ah... the church loves its control...."we will mak...Ah... the church loves its control...."we will make you evangelise your friends and get you with our program". <BR/><BR/>Perhaps they didn't count that anyone would actually think for themselves and say the obvious? Well done mate!Garthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00510466752869572280noreply@blogger.com